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July 02, 2014


Wendee Gabel

4th of July and not July 4th because there was a notation on the original document and the date was written "4th of July"

Wendee Gabel

Cathy Miller

When the day follows the month, it's written with the number (1, 2, 3, 4...). When the day comes before, it is written as 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th (or spelled out).

Lynn Gaertner-Johnston

Cathy, you got it! The rule for writing dates in business is that month-day dates use the cardinal number (1, 2, 3). As you note, day-month dates are fine with ordinal numbers, such as the 4th of July.

Many people outside the U.S. use cardinal numbers before the month, as in 4 July.

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Lynn Gaertner-Johnston

Wendee, thank you for responding to the riddle. I was focusing on business writing rather than history, so I was looking for a different response. I appreciate your comment.


Cathy Miller

Thank you, Lynn! :-)

carole huhn

July 4 is not owning anything july 4, 2014 the " of " july indicating it iscontained in- identifying one of the days of july. July 4 is the correct date. July is a noun .july can not be used as an adjective 4 th is ordinal number. And july is a noun and cant be used as adjective because it dies notmean snything

Sandra Restino

You have been so kind to answer my questions regarding proper grammar in the past. Now I have another one.

I hear more often now "so fun." It sounds awful to me. Even heard Laura Bush use it before, and I was surprised. I looked it up and it was not correct. I always say "it was so much fun." Why do people go along with the masses??
Thank you.

Lynn Gaertner-Johnston

Hi, Sandra. Like you, I prefer "so much fun."

But "so fun" is correct. "Fun" can be used as an adjective. Compare these examples:

--It was delightful.
--It was boring.
--It was wonderful.
--It was fun.

Just as we can say "so delightful," "so boring," and "so wonderful," we can say "so fun."

I hope my answer is helpful.


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